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Have more questions? Need to start a dialog? Join the NPDES 2018 Permit Discussion Message Board!

This is a moderated message board. Moderation and administrative assistance will be provided by King County.


Join a Topic Group & Find A Meeting date on the Spreadsheet

About the Spread Sheet:

This spreadsheet is for the 2018 Municipal Stormwater Permit Topic Groups with topics based on preliminary conversations. This is a living document that will update to reflect interest and participation around sub-topics.

Comments about this spreadsheet should be emailed to Todd Hunsdorfer, and can include:

  • Misspelled names
  • Contact information

Keep in mind that this document is available to the general public!



Working on the 2018 Municipal NPDES Stormwater Permit


Participants found the format, information provided, and discussion of issues to be productive and worthwhile. We are reviewing and considering the input we received and formulating a scope of work and schedule to guide us through the reissuance process. We are briefing our management teams in May and will provide you a more detailed update in June.

The input received has been very informative and provides helpful insight about the challenges and successes in municipal stormwater management. Thank you to all that have participated to date! There will be additional opportunities to weigh-in, or get more information, later this year.

In the meantime, we have posted summary notes from the public meeting to the permit reissuance webpage: http://www.ecy.wa.gov/programs/wq/stormwater/municipal/2018Reissuance.html

The Western Washington Phase I and Phase II permits expire on July 31, 2018. The Washington Department of Ecology will be able to provide feedback and an update on the process going forward. Discussion among stakeholders will follow, and the Ad Hoc Topic Group members will use input from the meeting to draft up Early Input Submittal Forms to Ecology for each of the topic groups.

Topic Group Summaries:

Self-selected individuals have volunteered to work on improvements to specific topics within the Municipal Stormwater Permits. These Topic Groups have summarized their work in the documents listed below. Your feedback will inform early input submittals which will be help Ecology as they draft the 2018 Municipal NPDES Stormwater Permits.

More at 2018 Western Washington Municipal Stormwater Permit Reissuance

Meeting Information:

Ecology will be hosting three public meetings to discuss topics related to the reissuance of the Phase I and Western WA Phase II Municipal Stormwater Permits.

These meetings are intended to build on the initial recommendations and early input Ecology received in October, 2016.

1.       Feb 23, 2017 at Lynnwood Convention Center, 3711 196th Street S.W. Lynnwood.
2.       Mar. 2, 2017 at Lacey Community Center, 6729 Pacific Ave SE, Lacey - this meeting will also include a webinar option, so you may join us from your desk!
3.       Mar 14, 2017 at Clark College, 1933 Fort Vancouver Way, Vancouver

Additional details, including exact times and agenda topics, will be posted to the website. The same agenda will be used at each meeting.  All meetings held~ 9am-4pm


Last meeting: Sept 29th 9:00 - 12:00pm
Read the Agenda

What:  2018 Municipal NPDES Stormwater Permit Ad Hoc Group

During the Confluence meeting on September 7th we identified the need to convene one more time prior to submitting the Early Input forms from the Topic Groups by the end of September.

Ecology acknowledged that it would be useful to gauge regional support on the suggested permit changes, which will be one of the main goals of this meeting.





Background Summary

We are an Ad Hoc group of Washington municipal permit holders, non-profits, state agencies, and regional organizations who have started investigating if and how to make a more collaborative approach leading to better permits and better working relationships among stakeholders.

We are hoping this effort will:
  • Provide the opportunity to develop a shared understanding of the permit language’s purpose.
  • Identify and suggest small changes to the permit that may result in substantial improvements.
  • Build a more productive relationship among stormwater stakeholders, and with Ecology so that we can better protect our region’s lakes, rivers, streams, ponds, and marine environments.